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Hey there. Hope you enjoy "you said".. Lxx
My favourite of the 3 songs was Never the First. Didn't like the note that the words "cruel", and "fool" ended on in the first verse, and that same note again in the 2nd verse on "door" and "before". Hope that's not being too picky, but it really bothered me and felt out of place. The pre-chorus was really nice, but I wanted to hear it one more time before the last chorus. Also, I wish the chorus lifted more, because I think it has the potential to be really exciting, maybe more like the Feeling's 'Fill my little world'.
Early sheets felt to me like it's missing a proper chorus, but the pre-chorus-y, refrain-y type thing they have sounds good. I just wanted something more after that, more payoff. The second verse felt long to me. Verses in general didn't really excite me too much. The bridge is the best bit. Also, I wish it hadn't ended as it did - maybe the missing chorus would fit well there.
Game over felt like it would be at home in a cool movie soundtrack.

Good work overall.
good luck
no problem....we're just getting the feeling that this is not going anywhere. It doesn't seem like you care enough. I'm pretty sure Apside has great music and material on our page ( at least, this is what the SF scene and Sylvia Massy seem to think), but so far you haven't been there...
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Great pick. I totally get this band. Great songwriting, great style and attitude. Interesting angle with the video game thing, but they don't have to rely on it. Best of luck to these guys! Looking forward to hearing more.
Apside, you need to have your fingers in pies in this business. Meaning you should also and definitely should be more focused on creating a dedicated live audience for your music before you expect anyone in the corporate music world to throw you a bone. Insecurity is a sign that you're not casting your net far enough. You need to have personal music goals and not become too paternalistic. Most of the people who make it in this business are extremely independent and have a knack for marketing their own music or at least a relentless live work ethic. I'm sure the A&R guys here are too nice to tell you that the odds of one of you guys getting snatched up by the industry is like winning a hundred grand in Vegas or like finding your soul mate on the internet. It's not like being the puppy that will eventually get picked out of the litter. There's no zero to hero, mate. If you're an unpolished diamond or if you have thick skin and work your tail off you can hopefully beat these odds.

RE: The Lost Levels

I hear Weezer and Eels Vs Pink Floyd and Crosby, Stills & Nash - something like that. I'm hearing another band in there somewhere also but can't put my finger on it. Not sure of the blend of verses with the chorus and bridge, they sound a little too contrasting. It's a little too "rehearsed" and not organic enough. Drums and guitars sound a little too perfect and a little too microwave ready for me. I hear a lot of that lately, I don't know if it's a trend or not. The nerdy singing doesn't have enough presence or enough "lift" to capture my attention and like Randy on American Idol would say - "I'm just not feeling it, dog." Not enough going on to make me feel like it's an actual band. A little too bland and not enough personality. It's not quite original enough to get on the air but it's a good template. The problem is the Lo Fi grunge sound is past its vogue and the chorus and bridge are too yesteryear. Production wise it's worthy though.

RE: Game Over

I appreciate those old Nintendo/Atari sounds - definitely adds for some nostalgia but I think I feel like you're attempt at implementing them are too subtle and sound more like one of those cheapy handheld video games than a real Nintendo or Atari. I would be a little more colorful and don't be afraid to milk them. If nothing else you might get famous just for that novelty factor. I have to admit I get lost and feel like my attention is torn between the instrumentation and the singing. The voice is too barren and lacks emphasis and individuality. Again you come in with a bridge that leaves the rest of the song behind and makes the total composition of the song sound like an experiment. I'm still feeling like you're a one man band. I do see a lot of heart in what you are doing and your attempt at originality is in the first stages. Keep working hard. Thanks.

RE: Never the First

Madness meets Ben Folds. Sounds like a catchy tune for an advert but I couldn't see it on the radio. Needs more of a musical group feel than just the solo artist in the booth feel I get from it right now.

BTW the first post was for Early Sheets

Apside, I just found the inertia to track down some of your songs and I do mean track them down since they are not posted on your vox page and I have to say of the five songs I listened to on your "second EP" I thought "A Song" was decent. The other songs do not have a direct style or format (or formula) that is pioneering or edgy enough for a major record label to risk money on especially when we may be nearing the end of the current phase of emo rock or whatever you want to call it. Your voice or the voice needs work - right now it wanders too much and its hard to put an identity on it. Also, you do realize that this is a UK website and are you aware of current trends or tailing music trends in the UK?

no matt, im not expecting to get signed from these blogs. we have a very nice following in northern cal, and have done many things that happen to a band only with a label support - even being on mtv and having songs on tv shows. but it amazes me the great marketing strategies of this site to attract artists on the days before this was on, and then replies are zero, and even posts on this blog are zero. A&R people have never listened to physical discs anyways, and here it would be no different. I think the purpose of these blogs should be more explicit "we wanna be myspace without really saying it."

I appreciate the time you took to go and listen to our music. but with all these talks about "formulas" and "trends" it's hard to take it seriously. Bands should not be playing the songs that are on the radio today, but on the radio tomorrow. And if you had to track down those songs, it is bc they're not supposed to be here, meaning they're part of history, but don't represent us any longer, even though that took us further than we expected.

thanks.

There are a lot of opinions on here mostly by other musicians/artists rather than Industry professionals. I don't really care for what other artists have to say. They are in essence in competition and therefore have a different agenda.
Matt Morris 's profile said he is a lifelong drummer with aspirations to mold bands.
My dad is a lifelong drummer but he has no idea about what any bands I listen to are trying to do. Aspirations and reality are very different things.
I aspired to release records and I did. I aspired to manage acts and I did.
That's not how you spell 'Shiny'.
Matt. How can one song be too contrasting and too bland?
Also, you are talking about 'getting famous' and 'American Idol'. If those are the things that you think are important then your musical attitudes are all wrong. Why would anyone even watch american idol? It has nothing to do with music whatsoever.
American idol blabber was tongue in cheek. But American Idol is a real indicator of what it takes to make it in the business as far as working hard, listening to brutal music moguls and building up a fanbase at the same time.As far as my profile on this website I decided to be slightly modest and vague as I'm not trying to splatter my resumee out there. I am involved in recording sessions in an actual studio every week - one that has featured the likes of Outkast, Macy Gray, music from the Dawsons Creek soundtrack and the One Tree Hill soundtrack. Sheryl Crow's producer has worked in this studio. I operate side by side with a producer who has worked with such artists as Tracy Chapman and Barenaked Ladies back in the day and has 30 years in the business. I've played drums for 20 years now and not in the garageband sense either. I was performing in traveling competitions as early as age 14 in a not so lax atmosphere and I used to perform in marching parades in the middle of the baking heat in summer time wearing a full uniform marching anywhere from 5 - 8 miles on average. I was a two time Who's Who Among American High School Students In Music awardee and was in the marching band that appeared in the movie "Wind" starring Jennifer Grey. I was in real estate for a number of years and was vice president of the company I worked for and trained and supervised 10 other mortgage salesman and I had to work relentlessly to earn that position. When I was 20 I was working 45 hours a week at a stock brokerage firm, then going from that job to real estate school at night and then going home and practicing piano method for 1-2 hours before I went to bed while my friends were out working dosser jobs and staying out all night. So there's me splattering some info on me. And I hate doing it cause I think it's cheesy and I know that there are people on here with a lot of musical experience. Why should I try to make myself seem any more special than the rest of you guys? I could care less if people react to my opinions but that is my passion, that is who I am and I sleep, breathe and eat music from sun up until sun down. Oh yeah, and I was born and bred in Britain until I was 12 and even did my GCSE in music composition when I was 16 over there. Feel free to delete this post Mods as I've probably taken up enough space as it is already on here!

The verse compared with chorus and bridge was a totally different format music wise. You can't just jump completely from one brand of music to another in the middle of a song without it seeming congruent. It might be a cool idea but it takes a genius to pull it off. The bland I was referring to was the vocals. People forget that you have to accentuate vocals to grasp the ears attention. Sometimes you have to manufacture even a small amount of feeling into your singing for it to stand out.

Apside, anyone with big pants in the industry can get you on tv, etc. Especially with the right connections. You should be grateful you've got this far. But sometimes you have to step outside of that and become a business manager/critic within yourself, Ask yourself why is my music good? Why is my music original? How can I develop a sound in our music that could be the next wave? The music world is as volatile as the stock market. Just because 3 or 4 other bands in your area that are good rock bands might have signed does not mean that you should or will be signed. Even if you are realistically better than those other bands. Record labels will only sign a few "project" or "potential" bands or maybe none at all if the boss man decides to put his fist down. And most producers will not take the time these days to try and create "hits" with a band. They are looking for bands that have an immediate hit in their pocket. Your best bet would be to scour the landscape for a producer who's willing to sculpt your music a little more if that's possible now that you are on a fast track. The A&R guys in the business have to be careful with what they submit to their overlords cause their jobs are at stake too.

Does that mean that there's now almost a 1 in 2000 chance of an A&R Manager actually listening to our songs.....?

Better than the old days when we had to go in to the big smoke and harass you at the door when you entered / left the office.....

:)

yes, he basically told us that the chances of happening anything through here are almost zero. i think this defeats the purpose they first announced...better the old days when they'd have no shame in saying this.
Looks like people are already throwing tantrums around here(apside), Calm down just because your music isnt appealing you dont have to go ranting and raving about it damn! people nowadays....
And oh no1 cares about ur followin in nothern cal and if u dont expect to get signed from this then why u here? just to put it plain an simple, stop moaning, other people are in the same boat here an u dont hear them goin on about it lol

We would like to hear some creative critizism from the producers on our music. We are going back into the studio this week to start recording our second album, due out in December. We have added new recording equipment, but we are curious about our first album and how it sounds.

Thanks to all!!

Kevin

Stoneshiver

D-Lo, experimenting is not a crime, is it? and so far, experimenting with this has been a disappointing thing. criticism from other people here do not exist, and the few people who have the balls to criticize this entire things get very intelligent comments such as yours. kissing asses will not help you here. it has been stated already that chances of happening here are very low.

everything else you said does not need to be adressed bc you were not part of the dialogue to begin with. if you read all the previous posts you may get some understanding of the things i've said.

Paula Abdul is a brutal music mogul? Thanks for the bio. I had problems sleeping last night and reading that helped no end.
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I have just joined your site and would like you to enjoy my song, 'Like An Angel'. I will be performing it at the Big Session Festival, Leicester on Saturday and at The Charlotte on the 28th of this month. Apparently I'm supporting Scouting For Girls.
According to Simon Cowell, Paula Abdul is a brutal music critic. Oh I see what you mean, the other kind of brutal. Jeez, now that I look at what I wrote I feel like someone stole my diary or something and put it on here. Dave, do you know if there's a delete button somewhere mate. So are you saying I could adapt my bio into children's bedtime reading.
Looks like you've dropped in at a bad time Martin...maybe later...
No. I think you'll find aspirations and reality are EXACTLY the same thing...I hope the irony is'nt lost on you...anyway lighten up and tell us a joke...
Nice call D-Lo...
I done a shite in the queen's toilet, so I guess that must make me the king...
The Lost Levels actually own one of Princess Margaret's old pianos. They got it for a tenner after she passed away (true), also their manager went to school on the Queens estate in Sandringham.
This must make them the most royal act on here.
hi new to the site and things anways liking your site keep up the good work :)

Could you take a look on my site also i would like to hear your advice of how my demos are good or bad i dont mind advice on how to improve my demos thank you..casanova

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Stine Richard, B*Witched and ASH perform to over 1000 fans in Coventry on Tuesday (19/06/2007).

Stine Richard
So, what are we saying? That someone comes here once a month, wipes a bit of dust off the screen, says 'I really must sort this place out'... then switches off the light, closes the door and forgets all about it till next time? Really Columbia? Is this a blog site for the space-shuttle Columbia or the Columbia A&R department? Please excuse me, I'm new here, but if this is the brave-new-online-A&R-world I was promised, I'm very disappointed (so far). Does anyone else feel patronised and short-changed? (ok, so it's free, but you know what I mean). Please prove me wrong. Anyway, all the best till July 10th, or whenever - Al